| Jun_21_2012_00:15:15 | Coderjoe | dashcloud: are you sure it wasn't because linus thought he could write better machine code than he thought a compiler could output? |
| Jun_21_2012_00:15:52 | Coderjoe | I wouldn't put it past him. he is very set in his "I am right. Everyone else is a moron." mentality |
| Jun_21_2012_00:20:52 | bsmith093 | well, it seems to have worked so far |
| Jun_21_2012_00:42:31 | dashcloud | about the Linus comment- he didn't know that what he thought was assembler was actually what other people thought of as machine code- (this happened in the 90s) |
| Jun_21_2012_00:42:41 | dashcloud | if you haven't seen the talk, it's pretty good |
| Jun_21_2012_00:43:30 | dashcloud | you can watch Linus give the finger to Nvidia- literally, and he talks about his stance on people getting offended by what he says |
| Jun_21_2012_05:26:09 | Coderjoe | he says he's blunt because he needs to be, but that still doesn't excuse personal attacks such as calling someone an idiot/moron simply because the don't agree with him |
| Jun_21_2012_06:04:54 | ersi | indeed |
| Jun_21_2012_08:39:40 | * Schbirid | is playing IGN |
| Jun_21_2012_08:39:42 | Schbirid | /bin/rm -r planet* |
| Jun_21_2012_08:39:45 | Schbirid | :) |
| Jun_21_2012_08:40:12 | Schbirid | the tar.gz is downloading to the right server, i am excited and curious if archivemount will work |
| Jun_21_2012_08:40:15 | Schbirid | it is "just" 13GB |
| Jun_21_2012_08:40:26 | Schbirid | could have been much worse |
| Jun_21_2012_09:38:47 | winr4r | morning |
| Jun_21_2012_09:51:39 | noone | look, its Jason! http://www.youtube.com/watch?=zHkYGv6D2Bc&feature=player_detailpage#t=750s |
| Jun_21_2012_09:52:17 | winr4r | oh hi |
| Jun_21_2012_09:52:19 | ersi | harr harr |
| Jun_21_2012_09:54:46 | Schbirid | This video is unavailable.Sorry about that. |
| Jun_21_2012_09:55:35 | Schbirid | archivemount does not seem to happy |
| Jun_21_2012_09:55:38 | Schbirid | it takes ages |
| Jun_21_2012_09:56:05 | ersi | woot, it was available four min ago :o |
| Jun_21_2012_09:56:14 | winr4r | yeah, same |
| Jun_21_2012_09:56:18 | winr4r | wow |
| Jun_21_2012_09:56:25 | ersi | it was a scene from IT Crowd Season 1 |
| Jun_21_2012_09:56:32 | ersi | or maybe it was from S2 |
| Jun_21_2012_09:56:38 | BlueMax | Nah, it was S1 |
| Jun_21_2012_09:56:40 | BlueMax | S1 E5 |
| Jun_21_2012_09:58:41 | noone | shit, it just stop working |
| Jun_21_2012_09:59:03 | noone | maybe it will come back later |
| Jun_21_2012_10:16:58 | Schbirid | extracting took 10 hours, tar.gz 12, so i guess archivemounting will do so too :( |
| Jun_21_2012_11:14:44 | Schbirid | yeah, it seems to be working hard |
| Jun_21_2012_11:14:47 | Schbirid | still 100% cpu |
| Jun_21_2012_11:15:13 | Schbirid | i bet it will on ram |
| Jun_21_2012_15:03:51 | SketchCow | Ops, please. |
| Jun_21_2012_15:09:58 | winr4r | morning jason |
| Jun_21_2012_15:11:47 | SmileyG | hmm |
| Jun_21_2012_15:11:50 | SmileyG | need to add to autojoin ¬_¬ |
| Jun_21_2012_15:12:55 | winr4r | hi SmileyG, too |
| Jun_21_2012_15:13:01 | winr4r | i missed you guys :< |
| Jun_21_2012_15:13:59 | SmileyG | o/ |
| Jun_21_2012_15:14:22 | SmileyG | I've been busy getting myself banned else where :P |
| Jun_21_2012_15:14:32 | winr4r | i've been working away |
| Jun_21_2012_15:14:35 | SmileyG | and fixed bitlbee irc <-> twitter :D |
| Jun_21_2012_15:14:36 | winr4r | 19 hour days fuck yeah |
| Jun_21_2012_15:14:40 | winr4r | SmileyG: i did that! |
| Jun_21_2012_15:14:45 | SmileyG | ouch o_IO |
| Jun_21_2012_15:14:49 | winr4r | SmileyG: posted to twitter using windows 3.1 |
| Jun_21_2012_15:14:53 | SmileyG | :D |
| Jun_21_2012_15:15:11 | SmileyG | Appently I can have facebook chat too, but I've not set thato ne up yet ;D |
| Jun_21_2012_15:15:46 | winr4r | https://twitter.com/lewiscollard/status/211543110604423168 |
| Jun_21_2012_15:16:02 | winr4r | sadly, facebook didn't work too well in IE 5 |
| Jun_21_2012_15:16:08 | winr4r | so i gave up on that idea |
| Jun_21_2012_15:16:19 | SmileyG | :D |
| Jun_21_2012_15:16:26 | SmileyG | well, bitlbee |
| Jun_21_2012_15:16:29 | SmileyG | who needs ie? |
| Jun_21_2012_15:17:03 | winr4r | wouldn't allow me to post to facebook proper |
| Jun_21_2012_15:17:25 | winr4r | also, facebook chat through jabber has been totally broken every time i've tried it |
| Jun_21_2012_15:17:45 | winr4r | wouldn't allow me = doesn't support |
| Jun_21_2012_15:18:15 | SmileyG | :D |
| Jun_21_2012_15:18:20 | SmileyG | o: |
| Jun_21_2012_15:18:31 | SmileyG | I heard you need to pull some data from the cookies etc. |
| Jun_21_2012_15:18:38 | SmileyG | then yeah I guess you might need ie if you were setting it up on thatm achine |
| Jun_21_2012_15:19:35 | DFJustin | what about the mobile version |
| Jun_21_2012_15:19:51 | winr4r | DFJustin: you know i don't think i even tried that |
| Jun_21_2012_15:19:54 | winr4r | LET'S TRY THAT |
| Jun_21_2012_15:20:12 | DFJustin | if it works on my dumbphone it probably works on ie5/ns4 |
| Jun_21_2012_15:21:14 | winr4r | ah, no it doesn't |
| Jun_21_2012_15:21:23 | winr4r | it thinks i want to download m.facebook.com |
| Jun_21_2012_15:21:50 | winr4r | i wonder if i could chain them somehow |
| Jun_21_2012_15:22:22 | winr4r | like, if there's an IM-to-facebook gateway, go irc -> bitlbee -> IM -> facebook |
| Jun_21_2012_15:22:32 | winr4r | or i could get a life and/or work done |
| Jun_21_2012_15:23:43 | winr4r | how is everyone? :) |
| Jun_21_2012_15:24:30 | SketchCow | MORNNING |
| Jun_21_2012_15:24:38 | SketchCow | My next month is basically... booked. |
| Jun_21_2012_15:24:53 | SketchCow | So I'll be doing my best to make sure we have archiveteam business in order but I can't go full-day crazy |
| Jun_21_2012_15:31:07 | SmileyG | winr4r: in pain |
| Jun_21_2012_15:31:20 | SmileyG | had large filling this morning and now my face aches |
| Jun_21_2012_15:31:28 | SmileyG | tho tbh it was alot better than some i've had in the past |
| Jun_21_2012_15:35:20 | Schbirid | uhm, could someone with s3cmd -> ia try uploading any files to s3:///FileplanetFiles_119000-119999 and tell me if it worked |
| Jun_21_2012_15:35:55 | Schbirid | because i sent a request for deletion earlier, did not get a reply yet but seem to have managed to upload new files to it even though it was created by another user |
| Jun_21_2012_15:37:47 | Schbirid | minus one / of course |
| Jun_21_2012_15:38:39 | Schbirid | ok, please do NOT do this. i think i found the bug |
| Jun_21_2012_15:39:34 | Schbirid | i remember something about a prefix for test items that ia would remove later, anyone remember that? i dont want to destroy anything |
| Jun_21_2012_15:43:15 | winr4r | SmileyG: aw, that sucks |
| Jun_21_2012_15:43:21 | winr4r | still, fillings hurt less than fucked teeth! |
| Jun_21_2012_15:49:24 | Schbirid | i need one tester with s3cmd for a confidential test |
| Jun_21_2012_15:50:19 | SmileyG | winr4r: hahah true |
| Jun_21_2012_15:50:31 | SmileyG | this wasn't hurting but my tongue was rubbing on the edge :< |
| Jun_21_2012_15:50:36 | winr4r | ah, yeah |
| Jun_21_2012_15:51:30 | winr4r | Schbirid: i'd help but i'd have to be taught how to use it |
| Jun_21_2012_15:51:40 | winr4r | i can do that when i get back from the shop, though |
| Jun_21_2012_15:52:06 | winr4r | (as long as it doesn't involve huge files, bandwidth cap :<) |
| Jun_21_2012_15:52:10 | Schbirid | right now would be better |
| Jun_21_2012_15:52:16 | winr4r | Schbirid: oh :( |
| Jun_21_2012_15:52:24 | Schbirid | :} |
| Jun_21_2012_15:52:29 | winr4r | well, back in 20 minutes, if you've not found someone by then hit me up |
| Jun_21_2012_15:52:41 | Schbirid | nah, thanks. i will have sent the mail by then |
| Jun_21_2012_16:02:07 | Schbirid | nevermind, managed to reproduce myself |
| Jun_21_2012_16:19:04 | winr4r | Schbirid: tmi? :D |
| Jun_21_2012_16:19:21 | Schbirid | heh |
| Jun_21_2012_16:51:45 | Schbirid | who would have thought! http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=b&b=ffffff&n=666666&r=2y&u=jamendo.com& |
| Jun_21_2012_17:00:08 | winr4r | i remember someone else pointing that out |
| Jun_21_2012_17:00:14 | winr4r | might have even been you, actually |
| Jun_21_2012_17:08:20 | Schbirid | yeah, prolly |
| Jun_21_2012_17:10:14 | winr4r | i found some of my favourite waking-up music on jamendo |
| Jun_21_2012_17:10:42 | winr4r | http://www.jamendo.com/en/list/a31777/one-million-dollar-surf-band |
| Jun_21_2012_17:13:52 | Schbirid | whoa, i missed that |
| Jun_21_2012_17:13:58 | Schbirid | only got the tiki twist ep |
| Jun_21_2012_17:13:59 | Schbirid | thanks |
| Jun_21_2012_17:14:09 | Schbirid | havent listened to them for ages .) |
| Jun_21_2012_17:17:28 | winr4r | :D |
| Jun_21_2012_17:17:37 | winr4r | hm |
| Jun_21_2012_17:17:45 | winr4r | maybe it was you that introduced me to them, then? |
| Jun_21_2012_17:21:20 | Schbirid | that would have been years ago |
| Jun_21_2012_17:23:09 | winr4r | ah, no, i've not been around that long |
| Jun_21_2012_17:23:16 | winr4r | (i mean in here) |
| Jun_21_2012_18:55:05 | winr4r | SketchCow: can you give me the dates that you will be in brighton, if that is still on? |
| Jun_21_2012_19:09:55 | shaqfu | mistym: It sounds like the BoV was unhappy that the president wasn't chasing the latest fads |
| Jun_21_2012_19:10:05 | shaqfu | MOOCs are coming up a lot |
| Jun_21_2012_19:10:08 | shaqfu | As is a lot of suit-talk |
| Jun_21_2012_19:10:13 | mistym | Ahh. |
| Jun_21_2012_19:11:10 | winr4r | hi guys, again |
| Jun_21_2012_19:11:21 | shaqfu | ohai, again |
| Jun_21_2012_19:11:36 | shaqfu | So yeah, she was canned for doing her job |
| Jun_21_2012_19:12:19 | winr4r | explain |
| Jun_21_2012_19:12:37 | mistym | Of course. Which explains the frustration, etc. That puts a lot of context to the one professor's resignation letter re: the issue. |
| Jun_21_2012_19:14:21 | shaqfu | winr4r: She was doing all the stuff she was hired to do - build uni prestige, develop depts, keep things running smoothly |
| Jun_21_2012_19:14:35 | winr4r | and then? |
| Jun_21_2012_19:14:39 | Schbirid | archivemount is still running hot, 9 hours |
| Jun_21_2012_19:14:40 | shaqfu | Not sink big bucks into programs that, in all seriousness, probably don't work |
| Jun_21_2012_19:15:05 | shaqfu | winr4r: The Board of Visitors (essentially directors) had a meeting and fired her in the middle of the night, with no warning |
| Jun_21_2012_19:15:14 | chronomex | classy |
| Jun_21_2012_19:15:22 | shaqfu | And the reason they gave was straight-up MBA talk |
| Jun_21_2012_19:15:30 | shaqfu | Like saying she lacked "strategic dynamism" |
| Jun_21_2012_19:15:36 | mistym | Oh god. |
| Jun_21_2012_19:15:46 | mistym | No sentence that includes "strategic dynamism" has ANY kind of human meaning. |
| Jun_21_2012_19:15:48 | winr4r | "strategic dynamism"? |
| Jun_21_2012_19:15:51 | chronomex | hahahaha |
| Jun_21_2012_19:16:02 | shaqfu | Now you see why people are livid |
| Jun_21_2012_19:16:14 | mistym | Replace the board with a markov generator, it'll be years before anyone notices |
| Jun_21_2012_19:16:21 | winr4r | isn't it in the bible that if you say the words "strategic dynamism" that god will actually shoot you in the face? |
| Jun_21_2012_19:18:08 | shaqfu | Which brings us to AT |
| Jun_21_2012_19:18:10 | shaqfu | http://gretchenspinning.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/teresa-sullivans-resignation-collecting-a-digital-archive/ |
| Jun_21_2012_19:18:19 | shaqfu | This is what UVa Speccol is doing |
| Jun_21_2012_19:18:30 | shaqfu | Lots of reading here - this will make you an expert on UVa |
| Jun_21_2012_19:18:55 | shaqfu | But, knowing the relationship big institutions have with web archives, I dunno if they're stopping at indexing or actually saving |
| Jun_21_2012_19:19:15 | mistym | "the relationship big institutions have with web archives" is a politic way of putting it |
| Jun_21_2012_19:19:45 | shaqfu | mistym: Other than "fucking scared"? |
| Jun_21_2012_19:19:59 | shaqfu | I spoke with someone at NYPL last week - he was frozen by the AG suit |
| Jun_21_2012_19:20:08 | shaqfu | He couldn't pull down news postings and scrape them for data |
| Jun_21_2012_19:21:03 | shaqfu | Why? Because in their scorched earth lawsuit, AG attacked Hathi's dark archive |
| Jun_21_2012_19:21:28 | shaqfu | Even though it had *nothing to do* with the big issue (sharing content) |
| Jun_21_2012_19:21:38 | mistym | Right... |
| Jun_21_2012_19:21:49 | winr4r | who is being sued here? |
| Jun_21_2012_19:21:55 | chronomex | I wonder if there's a way we could change copyright law to encourage hoarding |
| Jun_21_2012_19:22:07 | shaqfu | chronomex: Honestly, I wish NYPL would do it and get sued |
| Jun_21_2012_19:22:14 | chronomex | yeah |
| Jun_21_2012_19:22:18 | shaqfu | Because they have the resources to protect themselves and they're invulnerable |
| Jun_21_2012_19:22:35 | mistym | "X sues public library" is not a nice headline that anyone wants to be on the wrong side of. |
| Jun_21_2012_19:23:01 | chronomex | that would require them to be an institution that has the balls to do that |
| Jun_21_2012_19:23:15 | shaqfu | Anyway, I asked the archivist on Twitter if they're copying data - if not, I'll roll in |
| Jun_21_2012_19:23:15 | winr4r | chronomex: p.s. op SketchCow |
| Jun_21_2012_19:23:28 | chronomex | o |
| Jun_21_2012_19:23:28 | shaqfu | NYPL is weird |
| Jun_21_2012_19:23:38 | shaqfu | They have some really awesome people, but the higher you go, the worse it gets |
| Jun_21_2012_19:24:19 | shaqfu | I almost blew my top at their head of manuscripts for not digitizing books that, by her own admission, were only usable once more |
| Jun_21_2012_19:24:59 | mistym | argh |
| Jun_21_2012_19:24:59 | chronomex | wat |
| Jun_21_2012_19:25:07 | shaqfu | Her plan of action was to rehouse them |
| Jun_21_2012_19:25:16 | shaqfu | Yeah, see |
| Jun_21_2012_19:25:36 | shaqfu | And Marx is the definitive Scumbag Steve of libraries |
| Jun_21_2012_19:25:58 | shaqfu | When he was caught drunk driving with a mistress, he forwarded all press queries to the reference desk |
| Jun_21_2012_19:27:42 | shaqfu | That's why IA is so wonderful - Brewster is a) 100% committed to being awesome and b) rich enough to say "fuck the world" |
| Jun_21_2012_19:28:11 | mistym | IA's attitude is essentially the best. |
| Jun_21_2012_19:28:36 | mistym | Doing great things is considered better than doing safe things. Many other institutions don't have the same values |
| Jun_21_2012_19:30:27 | winr4r | yes, indeed |
| Jun_21_2012_19:30:34 | winr4r | i mean they fucking hired jason |
| Jun_21_2012_19:30:48 | mistym | YES |
| Jun_21_2012_19:31:03 | mistym | And their e-book lending program is gutsy and brilliant. |
| Jun_21_2012_19:37:29 | winr4r | i've not tried it |
| Jun_21_2012_19:39:17 | winr4r | brb folks |
| Jun_21_2012_19:45:50 | SmileyG | <3 IA for what thye are doing |
| Jun_21_2012_19:45:59 | SmileyG | tho i don't know, nor involve my self in any of, the poltitivs |
| Jun_21_2012_19:46:56 | shaqfu | So yeah - UVa is interesting in that it's Public/Corporate Ragnaro |
| Jun_21_2012_19:46:57 | shaqfu | k |
| Jun_21_2012_19:47:16 | shaqfu | Not every day people stand up to a bunch of MBAs |
| Jun_21_2012_19:48:14 | SmileyG | or they do, but they don't survive to tell the tail? :D |
| Jun_21_2012_20:03:23 | shaqfu | Hrm - debating going to the NDIIP conference |
| Jun_21_2012_20:11:35 | DFJustin | what the hell brewster was on vancouver island and no one told me |
| Jun_21_2012_20:11:59 | SketchCow | Thank god, I am opped |
| Jun_21_2012_20:15:19 | winr4r | hi jason! |
| Jun_21_2012_20:24:17 | ersi | SketchCow: Any news on the Internet Archive kickstarter/fundraiser thing? |
| Jun_21_2012_20:24:55 | ersi | chronomex: Just subsidy storage for the common man, problem almost solved |
| Jun_21_2012_20:25:25 | BlueMax | Still need help with rewards, SketchCow? |
| Jun_21_2012_20:40:23 | Schbirid | you know what sucks? hitting ctrl-c in the terminal where a job was running for 11 hours and you were hoping it would finish around that time |
| Jun_21_2012_20:40:38 | mistym | Schbirid: :( Yeah... |
| Jun_21_2012_20:40:53 | * mistym | had that experience with a job that had been running for ~36 hours recently |
| Jun_21_2012_20:54:01 | winr4r | Schbirid: do you know what sucks more than that? nuking /usr on a production system |
| Jun_21_2012_20:54:46 | mistym | winr4r: This sounds like a tale steeped in woe and tears. |
| Jun_21_2012_20:56:26 | winr4r | mistym: it was |
| Jun_21_2012_20:57:19 | Schbirid | do you have proper backups nowadays? : |
| Jun_21_2012_20:57:21 | Schbirid | ) |
| Jun_21_2012_20:57:24 | winr4r | so you know how configure scripts usually think PREFIX means a prefix, as in it'll put its binaries in PREFIX/bin, other stuff in PREFIX/share? |
| Jun_21_2012_20:58:09 | winr4r | this thing did not have a configure script, but it did have a makefile, with PREFIX in it, and i was like "okay, change that so that it is /usr" |
| Jun_21_2012_20:58:29 | winr4r | apparently the people who wrote it thought that PREFIX meant "install directory" |
| Jun_21_2012_20:58:31 | mistym | Uh oh. |
| Jun_21_2012_20:58:35 | winr4r | so i tried it, didn't like it |
| Jun_21_2012_20:58:40 | winr4r | then did a "make uninstall" |
| Jun_21_2012_20:58:50 | Coderjoe | >_< |
| Jun_21_2012_20:58:53 | winr4r | which it thought meant "rm -rf $PREFIX" |
| Jun_21_2012_20:59:09 | winr4r | obviously, "rm -rf /usr" |
| Jun_21_2012_20:59:25 | Coderjoe | you didn't need that anyway |
| Jun_21_2012_20:59:36 | winr4r | yeah, /usr is for pussies |
| Jun_21_2012_20:59:55 | winr4r | real men only need /bin/cat |
| Jun_21_2012_21:00:28 | SmileyG | ouch. |
| Jun_21_2012_21:01:38 | Coderjoe | real programmers use butterflies |
| Jun_21_2012_21:02:00 | winr4r | true story, anyway |
| Jun_21_2012_21:02:28 | mistym | winr4r: I don't suppose the bumblebee guy wrote this makefile ;) |
| Jun_21_2012_21:02:36 | Schbirid | nighty |
| Jun_21_2012_21:03:10 | winr4r | mistym: i don't even remember what it was that i installed |
| Jun_21_2012_21:05:50 | shaqfu | What was that program that nuked your entire drive? |
| Jun_21_2012_21:05:54 | shaqfu | Bumblebee or something |
| Jun_21_2012_21:06:03 | mistym | shaqfu: Yeah. |
| Jun_21_2012_21:06:10 | mistym | Most famous commit of all time. |
| Jun_21_2012_21:06:59 | winr4r | http://www.miltonbayer.com/blog/news/when-a-code-commit-goes-viral/ |
| Jun_21_2012_21:07:02 | winr4r | that one? |
| Jun_21_2012_21:07:06 | mistym | Yeah. |
| Jun_21_2012_21:07:34 | winr4r | that was fucking hilarious |
| Jun_21_2012_21:08:17 | mistym | Link is broken but thankfully he has a copy of the repo (with the full comment stream) still up: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6 |
| Jun_21_2012_21:08:59 | mistym | I probably would not want to use software written by a guy who spells "abbandoned" with two Bs. Huge typo risk. |
| Jun_21_2012_21:09:18 | shaqfu | Indeed ;) |
| Jun_21_2012_21:09:26 | winr4r | yes |
| Jun_21_2012_21:11:47 | shaqfu | I'm curious how it was discovered, and who the poor fellow was that did it |
| Jun_21_2012_21:16:39 | winr4r | mhm |
| Jun_21_2012_21:17:47 | ersi | mistym: uh, meh. People of all kinds of skill levels typos accidentally |
| Jun_21_2012_21:18:09 | ersi | One thing to rm -rf /usr, one thing to typo English |
| Jun_21_2012_21:18:35 | mistym | ersi: Yeah, I know. Just joking; thought the typo in the repo name was funny given it's most famous for the destructive code typo. |
| Jun_21_2012_21:18:37 | winr4r | ersi: i don't know, man |
| Jun_21_2012_21:18:51 | winr4r | i instantly distrust people with bad grammar |
| Jun_21_2012_21:19:00 | ersi | mistym: haha, true |
| Jun_21_2012_21:19:24 | SmileyG | wut? |
| Jun_21_2012_21:19:46 | SmileyG | :P |
| Jun_21_2012_21:20:12 | ersi | learn2readbacklog |
| Jun_21_2012_21:20:25 | shaqfu | mistym: Off-topic, but are you following ALA at all? |
| Jun_21_2012_21:20:44 | mistym | shaqfu: Only vaguely, have to admit - I meant to follow the tweets closer. |
| Jun_21_2012_21:20:55 | shaqfu | Same. Mostly interested in the GRRM and Pew talks |
| Jun_21_2012_21:21:11 | Coderjoe | I once started deleting my home directory by accident. I was using gprof, and the annotating tool didn't translate ~ into my home directory, so it created a directory in the current directory named ~ |
| Jun_21_2012_21:21:16 | shaqfu | Pew, for actual data on ebook use, and GRRM because I'm praying someone asks him about DOS |
| Jun_21_2012_21:21:42 | shaqfu | Coderjoe: Oof |
| Jun_21_2012_21:21:57 | Coderjoe | I later went to delete that directory... let it run for a few seconds, before it sunk in and started mashing ^C in panic |
| Jun_21_2012_21:26:32 | SmileyG | hmmmm i hope this filling hasn't got a frikking hole in it :< |
| Jun_21_2012_21:26:38 | SmileyG | it now hurts when I try and drink something sweet :< |
| Jun_21_2012_21:30:45 | Coderjoe | amalgam or composite? |
| Jun_21_2012_21:31:49 | Coderjoe | and is the drink cold? temperature sensitivity does go up after a filling |
| Jun_21_2012_21:34:13 | SmileyG | alagram? wut? |
| Jun_21_2012_21:34:20 | SmileyG | Coderjoe: yeah it was quite cold |
| Jun_21_2012_21:34:28 | SmileyG | hopefully it'll have calmed down by the weekend. |
| Jun_21_2012_22:00:22 | shaqfu | Bahaha, an archives job that requires previous combat experience |
| Jun_21_2012_22:05:07 | chronomex | shaqfu: ha, do share |
| Jun_21_2012_22:05:31 | shaqfu | http://tbe.taleo.net/NA8/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=LEOINDUS&cws=1&rid=2633 |
| Jun_21_2012_22:05:47 | chronomex | hahahaha |
| Jun_21_2012_22:05:48 | chronomex | wow |
| Jun_21_2012_22:06:30 | shaqfu | I suspect this posting was written by a robot |
| Jun_21_2012_22:07:56 | shaqfu | Huge stack of requirements that I honestly doubt any human has, plus live combat experience, no master's needed |
| Jun_21_2012_22:09:34 | shaqfu | I hope they pay six figures |
| Jun_21_2012_22:26:33 | SmileyG | Location: |
| Jun_21_2012_22:26:35 | SmileyG | • Afghanistan |
| Jun_21_2012_22:26:36 | SmileyG | o_O |
| Jun_21_2012_22:27:30 | shaqfu | Why do you think it requires the ability to handle rifles? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:27:46 | shaqfu | And this is coming from someone that nearly accepted a job in Kazakhstan |
| Jun_21_2012_22:28:36 | winr4r | all i think with an organisation like that is "okay, where are your archives" |
| Jun_21_2012_22:28:55 | winr4r | seems there's a lot of people talking about digital archiving and very few doing it |
| Jun_21_2012_22:29:19 | shaqfu | winr4r: That job posting explains why |
| Jun_21_2012_22:29:58 | SmileyG | theres ALOT of historical stuff in Afghanistan... |
| Jun_21_2012_22:30:00 | shaqfu | People think it's the hardest thing in the world to do, so they expect archivists to have mountains of exp/skls and hold endless meetings |
| Jun_21_2012_22:30:01 | winr4r | shaqfu: yes, it does |
| Jun_21_2012_22:30:43 | winr4r | you have to satisfy those requirements rather than "know how to use wget, will download for food" |
| Jun_21_2012_22:30:48 | shaqfu | Hah |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:03 | SmileyG | wait, I can get free fud? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:03 | SmileyG | :D |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:05 | shaqfu | I got mad this week because someone asked on the archives listserv about web archives |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:12 | shaqfu | And ten posts of "pay IA" came back |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:20 | winr4r | shaqfu: pay in? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:20 | shaqfu | I offered to teach the guy wget/heritrix, no response :( |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:27 | shaqfu | winr4r: Archive-It |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:35 | SmileyG | don't get mad, get */** |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:44 | winr4r | don't get mad, join archive team |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:46 | SmileyG | don't get mad, wget */** |
| Jun_21_2012_22:31:54 | SmileyG | :D |
| Jun_21_2012_22:32:05 | shaqfu | That's actually what I did |
| Jun_21_2012_22:32:10 | winr4r | ultimately, archive team has done far more for digital preservation than all the people talking about if have |
| Jun_21_2012_22:32:23 | shaqfu | I got mad I was passed over for a position because I suspect I scared the hiring manager by mentioning regexps |
| Jun_21_2012_22:32:27 | shaqfu | So I took up perl |
| Jun_21_2012_22:32:32 | SmileyG | yey i'm part of a cool team! |
| Jun_21_2012_22:32:59 | winr4r | look at that list of bullshit qualifications, then see how many jason would fulfill |
| Jun_21_2012_22:33:15 | shaqfu | winr4r: Why do you think I call it the Jason Scott Rule of Nonsense Posts |
| Jun_21_2012_22:33:19 | winr4r | then compare how much shit they have saved to how much jason has |
| Jun_21_2012_22:33:47 | winr4r | shaqfu: what is the jason scott rule? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:34:13 | shaqfu | winr4r: If your job posting is so pie-in-the-sky that Jason Scott wouldn't make it past robot screening, your job posting is bullshit |
| Jun_21_2012_22:34:13 | winr4r | the amount people talk about digital archiving is inversely proportional to how much they actually save? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:34:24 | winr4r | shaqfu: haha, that's about right |
| Jun_21_2012_22:35:12 | shaqfu | Junk like 3+ years dev exp |
| Jun_21_2012_22:35:15 | winr4r | incidentally, http://www.wikihow.com/Keep-Your-Digital-Memories-Safe |
| Jun_21_2012_22:37:23 | winr4r | shaqfu: which is why i respect the IA for hiring jason, because he probably has 1/4 of the stuff on that list, but actually saves shit |
| Jun_21_2012_22:39:03 | shaqfu | winr4r: Combine insane skill reqs + hyperspecialization and it's trouble |
| Jun_21_2012_22:40:03 | winr4r | shaqfu: which is why our digital history is dying |
| Jun_21_2012_22:42:03 | shaqfu | There's nonsenes like "we won't hire people that haven't used our software package of choice" |
| Jun_21_2012_22:42:07 | shaqfu | wat.jpg |
| Jun_21_2012_22:42:36 | SmileyG | shaqfu: erm, how do you make money from archives? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:42:59 | shaqfu | SmileyG: Hm? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:43:09 | SmileyG | If you were a company, archiving, how would you montize it? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:43:23 | shaqfu | Directly? You can't |
| Jun_21_2012_22:43:27 | shaqfu | It's a cost-saving venture |
| Jun_21_2012_22:43:30 | SmileyG | :) |
| Jun_21_2012_22:43:49 | shaqfu | Where I work, it's to keep company-owned assets around so we can reuse them |
| Jun_21_2012_22:43:57 | shaqfu | Instead of having to make new things every time |
| Jun_21_2012_22:44:15 | SmileyG | So why would you save OTHER peoples stuff? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:44:17 | winr4r | "monetise" is a word that needs to be shot in the heard |
| Jun_21_2012_22:44:42 | shaqfu | SmileyG: Why do you think archives tend to be publically-funded? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:44:51 | SmileyG | shaqfu: hehe i know |
| Jun_21_2012_22:45:24 | SmileyG | but this is why I think there is such issues with archiving... |
| Jun_21_2012_22:46:33 | underscor | ls |
| Jun_21_2012_22:46:54 | SmileyG | ls -lah. |
| Jun_21_2012_22:46:57 | shaqfu | porn/ |
| Jun_21_2012_22:46:58 | shaqfu | moreporn/ |
| Jun_21_2012_22:47:01 | shaqfu | yetmoreporn/ |
| Jun_21_2012_22:47:08 | winr4r | underscor: haha |
| Jun_21_2012_22:47:16 | winr4r | underscor: was that an "ls" in the wrong window moment? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:47:16 | underscor | oops |
| Jun_21_2012_22:47:20 | winr4r | because i fucking LOVE that |
| Jun_21_2012_22:47:21 | winr4r | haha |
| Jun_21_2012_22:47:23 | underscor | yeah |
| Jun_21_2012_22:47:25 | winr4r | "ls" |
| Jun_21_2012_22:47:27 | winr4r | "what?" |
| Jun_21_2012_22:47:54 | SmileyG | sudo list my f*ing files |
| Jun_21_2012_22:50:01 | shaqfu | Blech, one of these days I'll remember the Perl shebang |
| Jun_21_2012_22:50:46 | underscor | it's because the latest linux mint has this fucking annoying auto raise thing |
| Jun_21_2012_22:50:58 | underscor | whenever someone sends me a skype message or says my username on irc |
| Jun_21_2012_22:51:08 | SmileyG | o_O |
| Jun_21_2012_22:51:11 | underscor | and I haven't taken the time to figure out where to turn it off |
| Jun_21_2012_22:51:24 | * SmileyG | will be punching that in the face |
| Jun_21_2012_22:51:33 | underscor | yeah, it's irritating |
| Jun_21_2012_22:51:33 | SmileyG | it'll likely be called something like "raise on bell" |
| Jun_21_2012_22:51:36 | shaqfu | Time to write a bot to highlight underscor at inopportune moments |
| Jun_21_2012_22:51:40 | underscor | fuck you |
| Jun_21_2012_22:51:44 | underscor | SmileyG: thx |
| Jun_21_2012_22:51:55 | SmileyG | window settings,window manager type thing |
| Jun_21_2012_22:52:01 | shaqfu | That seems like an obnoxious thing to have on by default |
| Jun_21_2012_22:52:02 | * SmileyG | can't remember what WM mint is using. |
| Jun_21_2012_22:52:06 | SmileyG | shaqfu: indeed. |
| Jun_21_2012_22:52:09 | underscor | cinnamon |
| Jun_21_2012_22:52:14 | SmileyG | wtf is cinnamon |
| Jun_21_2012_22:52:18 | shaqfu | Like those clients that auto-open any URLs |
| Jun_21_2012_22:52:20 | SmileyG | oh god its that gnome/not-gnome thing? |
| Jun_21_2012_22:52:39 | underscor | it's basically gnome2 brought into the current decade |
| Jun_21_2012_22:52:39 | SmileyG | <3 gentoo :D |
| Jun_21_2012_22:53:07 | SmileyG | just wish god damnit pulse audio wasn't such a penishead. |
| Jun_21_2012_22:53:10 | SmileyG | :< |
| Jun_21_2012_22:53:22 | SmileyG | otherwise I'd use it :< |
| Jun_21_2012_23:04:51 | SketchCow | NOW THAT WAS A NAP |
| Jun_21_2012_23:04:59 | Coderjoe | SmileyG: There are essentially two major types of fillings (in the states anyway), "silver amalgam" (the metal ones) and composite (the tooth-colored ones) |
| Jun_21_2012_23:07:19 | winr4r | SketchCow: hi sir! |
| Jun_21_2012_23:07:33 | SmileyG | Coderjoe: ah |
| Jun_21_2012_23:07:40 | SmileyG | this is.... a mix I think |
| Jun_21_2012_23:07:59 | SmileyG | he said something about filling it with silver |
| Jun_21_2012_23:08:04 | SmileyG | but its white on the surface |
| Jun_21_2012_23:10:56 | Coderjoe | the amalgam fillings tend to conduct heat/cold much better than composites |
| Jun_21_2012_23:13:33 | SmileyG | hmmmm |
| Jun_21_2012_23:13:35 | SmileyG | ¬_¬ |
| Jun_21_2012_23:19:07 | Coderjoe | but are also less expensive, and tend to be used more in the back teeth, where it isn't visible |