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Jun_21_2012_00:15:15Coderjoedashcloud: are you sure it wasn't because linus thought he could write better machine code than he thought a compiler could output?
Jun_21_2012_00:15:52CoderjoeI wouldn't put it past him. he is very set in his "I am right. Everyone else is a moron." mentality
Jun_21_2012_00:20:52bsmith093well, it seems to have worked so far
Jun_21_2012_00:42:31dashcloudabout the Linus comment- he didn't know that what he thought was assembler was actually what other people thought of as machine code- (this happened in the 90s)
Jun_21_2012_00:42:41dashcloudif you haven't seen the talk, it's pretty good
Jun_21_2012_00:43:30dashcloudyou can watch Linus give the finger to Nvidia- literally, and he talks about his stance on people getting offended by what he says
Jun_21_2012_05:26:09Coderjoehe says he's blunt because he needs to be, but that still doesn't excuse personal attacks such as calling someone an idiot/moron simply because the don't agree with him
Jun_21_2012_06:04:54ersiindeed
Jun_21_2012_08:39:40* Schbiridis playing IGN
Jun_21_2012_08:39:42Schbirid/bin/rm -r planet*
Jun_21_2012_08:39:45Schbirid:)
Jun_21_2012_08:40:12Schbiridthe tar.gz is downloading to the right server, i am excited and curious if archivemount will work
Jun_21_2012_08:40:15Schbiridit is "just" 13GB
Jun_21_2012_08:40:26Schbiridcould have been much worse
Jun_21_2012_09:38:47winr4rmorning
Jun_21_2012_09:51:39noonelook, its Jason! http://www.youtube.com/watch?=zHkYGv6D2Bc&feature=player_detailpage#t=750s
Jun_21_2012_09:52:17winr4roh hi
Jun_21_2012_09:52:19ersiharr harr
Jun_21_2012_09:54:46SchbiridThis video is unavailable.Sorry about that.
Jun_21_2012_09:55:35Schbiridarchivemount does not seem to happy
Jun_21_2012_09:55:38Schbiridit takes ages
Jun_21_2012_09:56:05ersiwoot, it was available four min ago :o
Jun_21_2012_09:56:14winr4ryeah, same
Jun_21_2012_09:56:18winr4rwow
Jun_21_2012_09:56:25ersiit was a scene from IT Crowd Season 1
Jun_21_2012_09:56:32ersior maybe it was from S2
Jun_21_2012_09:56:38BlueMaxNah, it was S1
Jun_21_2012_09:56:40BlueMaxS1 E5
Jun_21_2012_09:58:41nooneshit, it just stop working
Jun_21_2012_09:59:03noonemaybe it will come back later
Jun_21_2012_10:16:58Schbiridextracting took 10 hours, tar.gz 12, so i guess archivemounting will do so too :(
Jun_21_2012_11:14:44Schbiridyeah, it seems to be working hard
Jun_21_2012_11:14:47Schbiridstill 100% cpu
Jun_21_2012_11:15:13Schbiridi bet it will on ram
Jun_21_2012_15:03:51SketchCowOps, please.
Jun_21_2012_15:09:58winr4rmorning jason
Jun_21_2012_15:11:47SmileyGhmm
Jun_21_2012_15:11:50SmileyGneed to add to autojoin ¬_¬
Jun_21_2012_15:12:55winr4rhi SmileyG, too
Jun_21_2012_15:13:01winr4ri missed you guys :<
Jun_21_2012_15:13:59SmileyGo/
Jun_21_2012_15:14:22SmileyGI've been busy getting myself banned else where :P
Jun_21_2012_15:14:32winr4ri've been working away
Jun_21_2012_15:14:35SmileyGand fixed bitlbee irc <-> twitter :D
Jun_21_2012_15:14:36winr4r19 hour days fuck yeah
Jun_21_2012_15:14:40winr4rSmileyG: i did that!
Jun_21_2012_15:14:45SmileyGouch o_IO
Jun_21_2012_15:14:49winr4rSmileyG: posted to twitter using windows 3.1
Jun_21_2012_15:14:53SmileyG:D
Jun_21_2012_15:15:11SmileyGAppently I can have facebook chat too, but I've not set thato ne up yet ;D
Jun_21_2012_15:15:46winr4rhttps://twitter.com/lewiscollard/status/211543110604423168
Jun_21_2012_15:16:02winr4rsadly, facebook didn't work too well in IE 5
Jun_21_2012_15:16:08winr4rso i gave up on that idea
Jun_21_2012_15:16:19SmileyG:D
Jun_21_2012_15:16:26SmileyGwell, bitlbee
Jun_21_2012_15:16:29SmileyGwho needs ie?
Jun_21_2012_15:17:03winr4rwouldn't allow me to post to facebook proper
Jun_21_2012_15:17:25winr4ralso, facebook chat through jabber has been totally broken every time i've tried it
Jun_21_2012_15:17:45winr4rwouldn't allow me = doesn't support
Jun_21_2012_15:18:15SmileyG:D
Jun_21_2012_15:18:20SmileyGo:
Jun_21_2012_15:18:31SmileyGI heard you need to pull some data from the cookies etc.
Jun_21_2012_15:18:38SmileyGthen yeah I guess you might need ie if you were setting it up on thatm achine
Jun_21_2012_15:19:35DFJustinwhat about the mobile version
Jun_21_2012_15:19:51winr4rDFJustin: you know i don't think i even tried that
Jun_21_2012_15:19:54winr4rLET'S TRY THAT
Jun_21_2012_15:20:12DFJustinif it works on my dumbphone it probably works on ie5/ns4
Jun_21_2012_15:21:14winr4rah, no it doesn't
Jun_21_2012_15:21:23winr4rit thinks i want to download m.facebook.com
Jun_21_2012_15:21:50winr4ri wonder if i could chain them somehow
Jun_21_2012_15:22:22winr4rlike, if there's an IM-to-facebook gateway, go irc -> bitlbee -> IM -> facebook
Jun_21_2012_15:22:32winr4ror i could get a life and/or work done
Jun_21_2012_15:23:43winr4rhow is everyone? :)
Jun_21_2012_15:24:30SketchCowMORNNING
Jun_21_2012_15:24:38SketchCowMy next month is basically... booked.
Jun_21_2012_15:24:53SketchCowSo I'll be doing my best to make sure we have archiveteam business in order but I can't go full-day crazy
Jun_21_2012_15:31:07SmileyGwinr4r: in pain
Jun_21_2012_15:31:20SmileyGhad large filling this morning and now my face aches
Jun_21_2012_15:31:28SmileyGtho tbh it was alot better than some i've had in the past
Jun_21_2012_15:35:20Schbiriduhm, could someone with s3cmd -> ia try uploading any files to s3:///FileplanetFiles_119000-119999 and tell me if it worked
Jun_21_2012_15:35:55Schbiridbecause i sent a request for deletion earlier, did not get a reply yet but seem to have managed to upload new files to it even though it was created by another user
Jun_21_2012_15:37:47Schbiridminus one / of course
Jun_21_2012_15:38:39Schbiridok, please do NOT do this. i think i found the bug
Jun_21_2012_15:39:34Schbiridi remember something about a prefix for test items that ia would remove later, anyone remember that? i dont want to destroy anything
Jun_21_2012_15:43:15winr4rSmileyG: aw, that sucks
Jun_21_2012_15:43:21winr4rstill, fillings hurt less than fucked teeth!
Jun_21_2012_15:49:24Schbiridi need one tester with s3cmd for a confidential test
Jun_21_2012_15:50:19SmileyGwinr4r: hahah true
Jun_21_2012_15:50:31SmileyGthis wasn't hurting but my tongue was rubbing on the edge :<
Jun_21_2012_15:50:36winr4rah, yeah
Jun_21_2012_15:51:30winr4rSchbirid: i'd help but i'd have to be taught how to use it
Jun_21_2012_15:51:40winr4ri can do that when i get back from the shop, though
Jun_21_2012_15:52:06winr4r(as long as it doesn't involve huge files, bandwidth cap :<)
Jun_21_2012_15:52:10Schbiridright now would be better
Jun_21_2012_15:52:16winr4rSchbirid: oh :(
Jun_21_2012_15:52:24Schbirid:}
Jun_21_2012_15:52:29winr4rwell, back in 20 minutes, if you've not found someone by then hit me up
Jun_21_2012_15:52:41Schbiridnah, thanks. i will have sent the mail by then
Jun_21_2012_16:02:07Schbiridnevermind, managed to reproduce myself
Jun_21_2012_16:19:04winr4rSchbirid: tmi? :D
Jun_21_2012_16:19:21Schbiridheh
Jun_21_2012_16:51:45Schbiridwho would have thought! http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=b&b=ffffff&n=666666&r=2y&u=jamendo.com&
Jun_21_2012_17:00:08winr4ri remember someone else pointing that out
Jun_21_2012_17:00:14winr4rmight have even been you, actually
Jun_21_2012_17:08:20Schbiridyeah, prolly
Jun_21_2012_17:10:14winr4ri found some of my favourite waking-up music on jamendo
Jun_21_2012_17:10:42winr4rhttp://www.jamendo.com/en/list/a31777/one-million-dollar-surf-band
Jun_21_2012_17:13:52Schbiridwhoa, i missed that
Jun_21_2012_17:13:58Schbiridonly got the tiki twist ep
Jun_21_2012_17:13:59Schbiridthanks
Jun_21_2012_17:14:09Schbiridhavent listened to them for ages .)
Jun_21_2012_17:17:28winr4r:D
Jun_21_2012_17:17:37winr4rhm
Jun_21_2012_17:17:45winr4rmaybe it was you that introduced me to them, then?
Jun_21_2012_17:21:20Schbiridthat would have been years ago
Jun_21_2012_17:23:09winr4rah, no, i've not been around that long
Jun_21_2012_17:23:16winr4r(i mean in here)
Jun_21_2012_18:55:05winr4rSketchCow: can you give me the dates that you will be in brighton, if that is still on?
Jun_21_2012_19:09:55shaqfumistym: It sounds like the BoV was unhappy that the president wasn't chasing the latest fads
Jun_21_2012_19:10:05shaqfuMOOCs are coming up a lot
Jun_21_2012_19:10:08shaqfuAs is a lot of suit-talk
Jun_21_2012_19:10:13mistymAhh.
Jun_21_2012_19:11:10winr4rhi guys, again
Jun_21_2012_19:11:21shaqfuohai, again
Jun_21_2012_19:11:36shaqfuSo yeah, she was canned for doing her job
Jun_21_2012_19:12:19winr4rexplain
Jun_21_2012_19:12:37mistymOf course. Which explains the frustration, etc. That puts a lot of context to the one professor's resignation letter re: the issue.
Jun_21_2012_19:14:21shaqfuwinr4r: She was doing all the stuff she was hired to do - build uni prestige, develop depts, keep things running smoothly
Jun_21_2012_19:14:35winr4rand then?
Jun_21_2012_19:14:39Schbiridarchivemount is still running hot, 9 hours
Jun_21_2012_19:14:40shaqfuNot sink big bucks into programs that, in all seriousness, probably don't work
Jun_21_2012_19:15:05shaqfuwinr4r: The Board of Visitors (essentially directors) had a meeting and fired her in the middle of the night, with no warning
Jun_21_2012_19:15:14chronomexclassy
Jun_21_2012_19:15:22shaqfuAnd the reason they gave was straight-up MBA talk
Jun_21_2012_19:15:30shaqfuLike saying she lacked "strategic dynamism"
Jun_21_2012_19:15:36mistymOh god.
Jun_21_2012_19:15:46mistymNo sentence that includes "strategic dynamism" has ANY kind of human meaning.
Jun_21_2012_19:15:48winr4r"strategic dynamism"?
Jun_21_2012_19:15:51chronomexhahahaha
Jun_21_2012_19:16:02shaqfuNow you see why people are livid
Jun_21_2012_19:16:14mistymReplace the board with a markov generator, it'll be years before anyone notices
Jun_21_2012_19:16:21winr4risn't it in the bible that if you say the words "strategic dynamism" that god will actually shoot you in the face?
Jun_21_2012_19:18:08shaqfuWhich brings us to AT
Jun_21_2012_19:18:10shaqfuhttp://gretchenspinning.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/teresa-sullivans-resignation-collecting-a-digital-archive/
Jun_21_2012_19:18:19shaqfuThis is what UVa Speccol is doing
Jun_21_2012_19:18:30shaqfuLots of reading here - this will make you an expert on UVa
Jun_21_2012_19:18:55shaqfuBut, knowing the relationship big institutions have with web archives, I dunno if they're stopping at indexing or actually saving
Jun_21_2012_19:19:15mistym"the relationship big institutions have with web archives" is a politic way of putting it
Jun_21_2012_19:19:45shaqfumistym: Other than "fucking scared"?
Jun_21_2012_19:19:59shaqfuI spoke with someone at NYPL last week - he was frozen by the AG suit
Jun_21_2012_19:20:08shaqfuHe couldn't pull down news postings and scrape them for data
Jun_21_2012_19:21:03shaqfuWhy? Because in their scorched earth lawsuit, AG attacked Hathi's dark archive
Jun_21_2012_19:21:28shaqfuEven though it had *nothing to do* with the big issue (sharing content)
Jun_21_2012_19:21:38mistymRight...
Jun_21_2012_19:21:49winr4rwho is being sued here?
Jun_21_2012_19:21:55chronomexI wonder if there's a way we could change copyright law to encourage hoarding
Jun_21_2012_19:22:07shaqfuchronomex: Honestly, I wish NYPL would do it and get sued
Jun_21_2012_19:22:14chronomexyeah
Jun_21_2012_19:22:18shaqfuBecause they have the resources to protect themselves and they're invulnerable
Jun_21_2012_19:22:35mistym"X sues public library" is not a nice headline that anyone wants to be on the wrong side of.
Jun_21_2012_19:23:01chronomexthat would require them to be an institution that has the balls to do that
Jun_21_2012_19:23:15shaqfuAnyway, I asked the archivist on Twitter if they're copying data - if not, I'll roll in
Jun_21_2012_19:23:15winr4rchronomex: p.s. op SketchCow
Jun_21_2012_19:23:28chronomexo
Jun_21_2012_19:23:28shaqfuNYPL is weird
Jun_21_2012_19:23:38shaqfuThey have some really awesome people, but the higher you go, the worse it gets
Jun_21_2012_19:24:19shaqfuI almost blew my top at their head of manuscripts for not digitizing books that, by her own admission, were only usable once more
Jun_21_2012_19:24:59mistymargh
Jun_21_2012_19:24:59chronomexwat
Jun_21_2012_19:25:07shaqfuHer plan of action was to rehouse them
Jun_21_2012_19:25:16shaqfuYeah, see
Jun_21_2012_19:25:36shaqfuAnd Marx is the definitive Scumbag Steve of libraries
Jun_21_2012_19:25:58shaqfuWhen he was caught drunk driving with a mistress, he forwarded all press queries to the reference desk
Jun_21_2012_19:27:42shaqfuThat's why IA is so wonderful - Brewster is a) 100% committed to being awesome and b) rich enough to say "fuck the world"
Jun_21_2012_19:28:11mistymIA's attitude is essentially the best.
Jun_21_2012_19:28:36mistymDoing great things is considered better than doing safe things. Many other institutions don't have the same values
Jun_21_2012_19:30:27winr4ryes, indeed
Jun_21_2012_19:30:34winr4ri mean they fucking hired jason
Jun_21_2012_19:30:48mistymYES
Jun_21_2012_19:31:03mistymAnd their e-book lending program is gutsy and brilliant.
Jun_21_2012_19:37:29winr4ri've not tried it
Jun_21_2012_19:39:17winr4rbrb folks
Jun_21_2012_19:45:50SmileyG<3 IA for what thye are doing
Jun_21_2012_19:45:59SmileyGtho i don't know, nor involve my self in any of, the poltitivs
Jun_21_2012_19:46:56shaqfuSo yeah - UVa is interesting in that it's Public/Corporate Ragnaro
Jun_21_2012_19:46:57shaqfuk
Jun_21_2012_19:47:16shaqfuNot every day people stand up to a bunch of MBAs
Jun_21_2012_19:48:14SmileyGor they do, but they don't survive to tell the tail? :D
Jun_21_2012_20:03:23shaqfuHrm - debating going to the NDIIP conference
Jun_21_2012_20:11:35DFJustinwhat the hell brewster was on vancouver island and no one told me
Jun_21_2012_20:11:59SketchCowThank god, I am opped
Jun_21_2012_20:15:19winr4rhi jason!
Jun_21_2012_20:24:17ersiSketchCow: Any news on the Internet Archive kickstarter/fundraiser thing?
Jun_21_2012_20:24:55ersichronomex: Just subsidy storage for the common man, problem almost solved
Jun_21_2012_20:25:25BlueMaxStill need help with rewards, SketchCow?
Jun_21_2012_20:40:23Schbiridyou know what sucks? hitting ctrl-c in the terminal where a job was running for 11 hours and you were hoping it would finish around that time
Jun_21_2012_20:40:38mistymSchbirid: :( Yeah...
Jun_21_2012_20:40:53* mistymhad that experience with a job that had been running for ~36 hours recently
Jun_21_2012_20:54:01winr4rSchbirid: do you know what sucks more than that? nuking /usr on a production system
Jun_21_2012_20:54:46mistymwinr4r: This sounds like a tale steeped in woe and tears.
Jun_21_2012_20:56:26winr4rmistym: it was
Jun_21_2012_20:57:19Schbiriddo you have proper backups nowadays? :
Jun_21_2012_20:57:21Schbirid)
Jun_21_2012_20:57:24winr4rso you know how configure scripts usually think PREFIX means a prefix, as in it'll put its binaries in PREFIX/bin, other stuff in PREFIX/share?
Jun_21_2012_20:58:09winr4rthis thing did not have a configure script, but it did have a makefile, with PREFIX in it, and i was like "okay, change that so that it is /usr"
Jun_21_2012_20:58:29winr4rapparently the people who wrote it thought that PREFIX meant "install directory"
Jun_21_2012_20:58:31mistymUh oh.
Jun_21_2012_20:58:35winr4rso i tried it, didn't like it
Jun_21_2012_20:58:40winr4rthen did a "make uninstall"
Jun_21_2012_20:58:50Coderjoe>_<
Jun_21_2012_20:58:53winr4rwhich it thought meant "rm -rf $PREFIX"
Jun_21_2012_20:59:09winr4robviously, "rm -rf /usr"
Jun_21_2012_20:59:25Coderjoeyou didn't need that anyway
Jun_21_2012_20:59:36winr4ryeah, /usr is for pussies
Jun_21_2012_20:59:55winr4rreal men only need /bin/cat
Jun_21_2012_21:00:28SmileyGouch.
Jun_21_2012_21:01:38Coderjoereal programmers use butterflies
Jun_21_2012_21:02:00winr4rtrue story, anyway
Jun_21_2012_21:02:28mistymwinr4r: I don't suppose the bumblebee guy wrote this makefile ;)
Jun_21_2012_21:02:36Schbiridnighty
Jun_21_2012_21:03:10winr4rmistym: i don't even remember what it was that i installed
Jun_21_2012_21:05:50shaqfuWhat was that program that nuked your entire drive?
Jun_21_2012_21:05:54shaqfuBumblebee or something
Jun_21_2012_21:06:03mistymshaqfu: Yeah.
Jun_21_2012_21:06:10mistymMost famous commit of all time.
Jun_21_2012_21:06:59winr4rhttp://www.miltonbayer.com/blog/news/when-a-code-commit-goes-viral/
Jun_21_2012_21:07:02winr4rthat one?
Jun_21_2012_21:07:06mistymYeah.
Jun_21_2012_21:07:34winr4rthat was fucking hilarious
Jun_21_2012_21:08:17mistymLink is broken but thankfully he has a copy of the repo (with the full comment stream) still up: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6
Jun_21_2012_21:08:59mistymI probably would not want to use software written by a guy who spells "abbandoned" with two Bs. Huge typo risk.
Jun_21_2012_21:09:18shaqfuIndeed ;)
Jun_21_2012_21:09:26winr4ryes
Jun_21_2012_21:11:47shaqfuI'm curious how it was discovered, and who the poor fellow was that did it
Jun_21_2012_21:16:39winr4rmhm
Jun_21_2012_21:17:47ersimistym: uh, meh. People of all kinds of skill levels typos accidentally
Jun_21_2012_21:18:09ersiOne thing to rm -rf /usr, one thing to typo English
Jun_21_2012_21:18:35mistymersi: Yeah, I know. Just joking; thought the typo in the repo name was funny given it's most famous for the destructive code typo.
Jun_21_2012_21:18:37winr4rersi: i don't know, man
Jun_21_2012_21:18:51winr4ri instantly distrust people with bad grammar
Jun_21_2012_21:19:00ersimistym: haha, true
Jun_21_2012_21:19:24SmileyGwut?
Jun_21_2012_21:19:46SmileyG:P
Jun_21_2012_21:20:12ersilearn2readbacklog
Jun_21_2012_21:20:25shaqfumistym: Off-topic, but are you following ALA at all?
Jun_21_2012_21:20:44mistymshaqfu: Only vaguely, have to admit - I meant to follow the tweets closer.
Jun_21_2012_21:20:55shaqfuSame. Mostly interested in the GRRM and Pew talks
Jun_21_2012_21:21:11CoderjoeI once started deleting my home directory by accident. I was using gprof, and the annotating tool didn't translate ~ into my home directory, so it created a directory in the current directory named ~
Jun_21_2012_21:21:16shaqfuPew, for actual data on ebook use, and GRRM because I'm praying someone asks him about DOS
Jun_21_2012_21:21:42shaqfuCoderjoe: Oof
Jun_21_2012_21:21:57CoderjoeI later went to delete that directory... let it run for a few seconds, before it sunk in and started mashing ^C in panic
Jun_21_2012_21:26:32SmileyGhmmmm i hope this filling hasn't got a frikking hole in it :<
Jun_21_2012_21:26:38SmileyGit now hurts when I try and drink something sweet :<
Jun_21_2012_21:30:45Coderjoeamalgam or composite?
Jun_21_2012_21:31:49Coderjoeand is the drink cold? temperature sensitivity does go up after a filling
Jun_21_2012_21:34:13SmileyGalagram? wut?
Jun_21_2012_21:34:20SmileyGCoderjoe: yeah it was quite cold
Jun_21_2012_21:34:28SmileyGhopefully it'll have calmed down by the weekend.
Jun_21_2012_22:00:22shaqfuBahaha, an archives job that requires previous combat experience
Jun_21_2012_22:05:07chronomexshaqfu: ha, do share
Jun_21_2012_22:05:31shaqfuhttp://tbe.taleo.net/NA8/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=LEOINDUS&cws=1&rid=2633
Jun_21_2012_22:05:47chronomexhahahaha
Jun_21_2012_22:05:48chronomexwow
Jun_21_2012_22:06:30shaqfuI suspect this posting was written by a robot
Jun_21_2012_22:07:56shaqfuHuge stack of requirements that I honestly doubt any human has, plus live combat experience, no master's needed
Jun_21_2012_22:09:34shaqfuI hope they pay six figures
Jun_21_2012_22:26:33SmileyGLocation:
Jun_21_2012_22:26:35SmileyG• Afghanistan
Jun_21_2012_22:26:36SmileyGo_O
Jun_21_2012_22:27:30shaqfuWhy do you think it requires the ability to handle rifles?
Jun_21_2012_22:27:46shaqfuAnd this is coming from someone that nearly accepted a job in Kazakhstan
Jun_21_2012_22:28:36winr4rall i think with an organisation like that is "okay, where are your archives"
Jun_21_2012_22:28:55winr4rseems there's a lot of people talking about digital archiving and very few doing it
Jun_21_2012_22:29:19shaqfuwinr4r: That job posting explains why
Jun_21_2012_22:29:58SmileyGtheres ALOT of historical stuff in Afghanistan...
Jun_21_2012_22:30:00shaqfuPeople think it's the hardest thing in the world to do, so they expect archivists to have mountains of exp/skls and hold endless meetings
Jun_21_2012_22:30:01winr4rshaqfu: yes, it does
Jun_21_2012_22:30:43winr4ryou have to satisfy those requirements rather than "know how to use wget, will download for food"
Jun_21_2012_22:30:48shaqfuHah
Jun_21_2012_22:31:03SmileyGwait, I can get free fud?
Jun_21_2012_22:31:03SmileyG:D
Jun_21_2012_22:31:05shaqfuI got mad this week because someone asked on the archives listserv about web archives
Jun_21_2012_22:31:12shaqfuAnd ten posts of "pay IA" came back
Jun_21_2012_22:31:20winr4rshaqfu: pay in?
Jun_21_2012_22:31:20shaqfuI offered to teach the guy wget/heritrix, no response :(
Jun_21_2012_22:31:27shaqfuwinr4r: Archive-It
Jun_21_2012_22:31:35SmileyGdon't get mad, get */**
Jun_21_2012_22:31:44winr4rdon't get mad, join archive team
Jun_21_2012_22:31:46SmileyGdon't get mad, wget */**
Jun_21_2012_22:31:54SmileyG:D
Jun_21_2012_22:32:05shaqfuThat's actually what I did
Jun_21_2012_22:32:10winr4rultimately, archive team has done far more for digital preservation than all the people talking about if have
Jun_21_2012_22:32:23shaqfuI got mad I was passed over for a position because I suspect I scared the hiring manager by mentioning regexps
Jun_21_2012_22:32:27shaqfuSo I took up perl
Jun_21_2012_22:32:32SmileyGyey i'm part of a cool team!
Jun_21_2012_22:32:59winr4rlook at that list of bullshit qualifications, then see how many jason would fulfill
Jun_21_2012_22:33:15shaqfuwinr4r: Why do you think I call it the Jason Scott Rule of Nonsense Posts
Jun_21_2012_22:33:19winr4rthen compare how much shit they have saved to how much jason has
Jun_21_2012_22:33:47winr4rshaqfu: what is the jason scott rule?
Jun_21_2012_22:34:13shaqfuwinr4r: If your job posting is so pie-in-the-sky that Jason Scott wouldn't make it past robot screening, your job posting is bullshit
Jun_21_2012_22:34:13winr4rthe amount people talk about digital archiving is inversely proportional to how much they actually save?
Jun_21_2012_22:34:24winr4rshaqfu: haha, that's about right
Jun_21_2012_22:35:12shaqfuJunk like 3+ years dev exp
Jun_21_2012_22:35:15winr4rincidentally, http://www.wikihow.com/Keep-Your-Digital-Memories-Safe
Jun_21_2012_22:37:23winr4rshaqfu: which is why i respect the IA for hiring jason, because he probably has 1/4 of the stuff on that list, but actually saves shit
Jun_21_2012_22:39:03shaqfuwinr4r: Combine insane skill reqs + hyperspecialization and it's trouble
Jun_21_2012_22:40:03winr4rshaqfu: which is why our digital history is dying
Jun_21_2012_22:42:03shaqfuThere's nonsenes like "we won't hire people that haven't used our software package of choice"
Jun_21_2012_22:42:07shaqfuwat.jpg
Jun_21_2012_22:42:36SmileyGshaqfu: erm, how do you make money from archives?
Jun_21_2012_22:42:59shaqfuSmileyG: Hm?
Jun_21_2012_22:43:09SmileyGIf you were a company, archiving, how would you montize it?
Jun_21_2012_22:43:23shaqfuDirectly? You can't
Jun_21_2012_22:43:27shaqfuIt's a cost-saving venture
Jun_21_2012_22:43:30SmileyG:)
Jun_21_2012_22:43:49shaqfuWhere I work, it's to keep company-owned assets around so we can reuse them
Jun_21_2012_22:43:57shaqfuInstead of having to make new things every time
Jun_21_2012_22:44:15SmileyGSo why would you save OTHER peoples stuff?
Jun_21_2012_22:44:17winr4r"monetise" is a word that needs to be shot in the heard
Jun_21_2012_22:44:42shaqfuSmileyG: Why do you think archives tend to be publically-funded?
Jun_21_2012_22:44:51SmileyGshaqfu: hehe i know
Jun_21_2012_22:45:24SmileyGbut this is why I think there is such issues with archiving...
Jun_21_2012_22:46:33underscorls
Jun_21_2012_22:46:54SmileyGls -lah.
Jun_21_2012_22:46:57shaqfuporn/
Jun_21_2012_22:46:58shaqfumoreporn/
Jun_21_2012_22:47:01shaqfuyetmoreporn/
Jun_21_2012_22:47:08winr4runderscor: haha
Jun_21_2012_22:47:16winr4runderscor: was that an "ls" in the wrong window moment?
Jun_21_2012_22:47:16underscoroops
Jun_21_2012_22:47:20winr4rbecause i fucking LOVE that
Jun_21_2012_22:47:21winr4rhaha
Jun_21_2012_22:47:23underscoryeah
Jun_21_2012_22:47:25winr4r"ls"
Jun_21_2012_22:47:27winr4r"what?"
Jun_21_2012_22:47:54SmileyGsudo list my f*ing files
Jun_21_2012_22:50:01shaqfuBlech, one of these days I'll remember the Perl shebang
Jun_21_2012_22:50:46underscorit's because the latest linux mint has this fucking annoying auto raise thing
Jun_21_2012_22:50:58underscorwhenever someone sends me a skype message or says my username on irc
Jun_21_2012_22:51:08SmileyGo_O
Jun_21_2012_22:51:11underscorand I haven't taken the time to figure out where to turn it off
Jun_21_2012_22:51:24* SmileyGwill be punching that in the face
Jun_21_2012_22:51:33underscoryeah, it's irritating
Jun_21_2012_22:51:33SmileyGit'll likely be called something like "raise on bell"
Jun_21_2012_22:51:36shaqfuTime to write a bot to highlight underscor at inopportune moments
Jun_21_2012_22:51:40underscorfuck you
Jun_21_2012_22:51:44underscorSmileyG: thx
Jun_21_2012_22:51:55SmileyGwindow settings,window manager type thing
Jun_21_2012_22:52:01shaqfuThat seems like an obnoxious thing to have on by default
Jun_21_2012_22:52:02* SmileyGcan't remember what WM mint is using.
Jun_21_2012_22:52:06SmileyGshaqfu: indeed.
Jun_21_2012_22:52:09underscorcinnamon
Jun_21_2012_22:52:14SmileyGwtf is cinnamon
Jun_21_2012_22:52:18shaqfuLike those clients that auto-open any URLs
Jun_21_2012_22:52:20SmileyGoh god its that gnome/not-gnome thing?
Jun_21_2012_22:52:39underscorit's basically gnome2 brought into the current decade
Jun_21_2012_22:52:39SmileyG<3 gentoo :D
Jun_21_2012_22:53:07SmileyGjust wish god damnit pulse audio wasn't such a penishead.
Jun_21_2012_22:53:10SmileyG:<
Jun_21_2012_22:53:22SmileyGotherwise I'd use it :<
Jun_21_2012_23:04:51SketchCowNOW THAT WAS A NAP
Jun_21_2012_23:04:59CoderjoeSmileyG: There are essentially two major types of fillings (in the states anyway), "silver amalgam" (the metal ones) and composite (the tooth-colored ones)
Jun_21_2012_23:07:19winr4rSketchCow: hi sir!
Jun_21_2012_23:07:33SmileyGCoderjoe: ah
Jun_21_2012_23:07:40SmileyGthis is.... a mix I think
Jun_21_2012_23:07:59SmileyGhe said something about filling it with silver
Jun_21_2012_23:08:04SmileyGbut its white on the surface
Jun_21_2012_23:10:56Coderjoethe amalgam fillings tend to conduct heat/cold much better than composites
Jun_21_2012_23:13:33SmileyGhmmmm
Jun_21_2012_23:13:35SmileyG¬_¬
Jun_21_2012_23:19:07Coderjoebut are also less expensive, and tend to be used more in the back teeth, where it isn't visible